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  • Emergency Permaculture

    Kits that contain everything a refugee needs to start a sustainable garden
  • Founder: PlatonicJensen

    gardening, Permaculture, Permaculure,

  • Who We Need

    Anyone with experience who can help decide what does in the kit.

     Anyone who has a source of these items, cheap or free for a charitable purpose. 

  • How to join
  • Mission

    We are trying to develop a kit that contains everything a new gardener would need to start producing their own food, except the land. Included would be tools, seeds and garden books.

     

    Add to the Wikia Page at  http://superstruct.wikia.com/wiki/Emergency_permaculture

     

  • What we can accomplish

    • Done right, this will be a tool for encourgaging sustainable agriculture and feeding the masses. What we really need is a simple "Put tab a into slot B" kit that makes starting the garden easy for beginners.

       

      IN this case i suggest a modular approach. Several sizes and stages of involvement in the projectranginf from the size of a deck of cards, the size of an average loaf of bread, and the size of a peach cart. Each appropriate to the level of skil. This also makes donating easier since all scales of donation can be used.

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  • How this superstruct works

    • Edit the Wiki Page, please. I have certain permaculture resources in electronic formats that I can reward people with, if they make significant contributions and sign them.

       

      Inputs: Ideas on what should be included. 

      Later: The actual items to be included, transportation, end users. 

       

      Outputs: Complete permaculure toolkits and local starter gardens. A model for others to follow. 

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  • Discuss this superstructure

    • Okay how do you propose to create a PERMACULTURE kit?  Permaculture is by definition sensitive to the zone it is in.  It is longterm perennial growth in a state of balance with its very specific location?  You can do sustainable gardening and package it in kit form - most definitely, but I don't think you can create a one size fits all PERMACULTURE kit.  What am I missing, tell me more about this idea. - mudmama

      I'd suppose what makes it a permaculture kit is including the information neccessary to incorporate into the site you have. I mean, in order to garden you need tools and seeds. In order to do Permaculture you need knowledge, as well as tools and seeds. Emergency Permaculture is the toolkit to get you started, the seed from which a permaculture garden grows, the thing that gets you through the first few years while everything establishes itself. You are right about localization though, I think maybe the different versions of the kits would need to be made for specific climates and regions. --PlatonicJensen

      If you re talking GARDENING - I'd suggest you include a square foot gardening card - show how to build contain gardens that are not dependant on ground soil, show the grid placement for different crops, make a simple list of companion plantings.  mudmama

      Continuing this thought after going for a hike...okay you could start with the basics - natural water collection - package the whole thing in a rain barrel maybe, simple plans for a composter, tools (collect old kitchen tools even to package - old scoops and meat forks, old spatulas work fine and could be upcycled for use), simple plans for containers from scrap, heirloom seeds for perennials...more later...mudmama

       I'm going to suggest that without knowing the soil conditions of where the person is going to try homesteading (are they terraforming an old parking lot??) that part of the kit contain soilless starter for seeds.  They can create a rich soil via their compost and humanure from their composting toilet, but they need to be able to start right away. mudmama 

      Also a guide to phyto-reclamation plants and grasses would be helpful for those who are trying to reclaim pollutted soil.  In the first couple of years of creating a permacultural garden the other useful skill is wildcrafting - both for sustenance and for a more biodynamic rich compost. mudmama

      What if you propose a 'take one, make two' sort of guideline for the kits?  So, you get your kit from someone local - it contains seeds and equipment suitable for your climate because it's been made locally.  When you've started using the kit, and gotten on your feet a little, you make two kits from the seeds you've now made, and give them to others in the area?  It might take a while, but it would help to customise kits for your region/environment - especially as you'll be more likely to give away seeds that you have a surplus of.  -- Tinkergirl.

      I'd also like to suggest that you have two stages to a kit (if the kits are partially centralised) - the 'core' kit that contains information, tools and equipment.  Then when the kits are sent out (possibly to local distribution centres/people) the kits can be added to in a way that makes sense in the location.  -- Tinkergirl. 

      There's a basic problem with this superstruct - you're misusing permculture.  Permaculture is slow and deep and no matter where you do it it's based on a web that includes trees.  You can't make it happen overnight.  Its sustainable from the start, but it won't sustain YOU for several years.  I think you're abusing a term because it is hip.  Like packaging salt and adding the label "fatfree".  I do like a gardening kit idea though and I like Tink's idea about the responsibility - microeconomics at work.

       

      I LOVE tink's ideas. I haven't had the time to sit down with my books yet and kick out a good list, I keep meaning to but when I try my brain fuzzes out. Years of working at boring architecture jobs has nearly ruined my capability to work with my brain instead of my hands. As to abusing permaculture, you are probably right, unnamed commenter, but as I imagine it, these kits are meant to contain the tools needed to start, and the information needed to continue. I mean really, the difference between a garden kit and a permaculture kit is less in what is in it and more in what people do with it, neh? The more I think about it, the more It seems including seeds in the core kit is wrong. Instead, we need to include tools and resources people need to do permaculture, and the plants should be acquired through other means, perhaps as a separate, locally produced and designed plant set. --PlatonicJensen

      There are two basic books I turn to all the time for gardening - and container gardening is really the way to go if you want immeadiate results and you don't know your soil - years ago I lived in an urban neighbourhood in Toronto that was having lead abatement done - we were not supposed to do any veggie gardening so the Jesuits on one side and the Buddhists on the other and us students in the middle made big containers that were filled with an almost soilless mix - square foot gardening mel bartholemew and more recently the woodchuck's guide to gardening (biodynamic) rupp.  With these you can fill the gap between eat now and plan to eat later.  mudmama

       

      All of the permaculture projects I have seen and worked with included more than gardens, they included aquaculture and other flora and fauna working with the garden to create a sustainable system.  Has there been any thought of including the means to include these facets of permaculture into the core kits or peripheral kits?  The symbiotic nature of fish and plants is well known.  Fish in a closed system create a nutrient rich environment, that is not safe for the fish.  The plants thrive on the nutrients in the water and "purify" the water making it safe for the fish.  Plants such as duckweed also provide food for the fish.  This way you have plants to eat and fish to eat.  The best part is that the fish and plants help each other and you.   --abodadu

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